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Monday, December 02, 2002
 

myRadio - update - v0.3

Read more at http://radio.weblogs.com/0100875/outlines/nuggets/

Aggregate and publish dynamic, customized web services, with myRadio for Radio Userland myRadio makes it easy to publish dynamically-updating stock quotes, weather conditions, ebay price watchers, fedex trackers (and more, and more to come) in your weblog; and keep tabs on customized services in your aggregator. This is another iteration towards the rich client, micro-content client, digital dashboard, information nirvana -- an easy-to-use tool set for building complex personalized web applications; comprising web services, syndicated content, screen scraping, databases, process and display logic -- for personal use and sharing with others and the web.

Here are nuggets in action ::

 [Brain Off]

Congrats to Mikel.   Add nuggets to the list!

 

Doc also mentions in his COMDEX report Johnathan Peterson's annotated archival criticism of Peter Chernin's keynote.  [The Doc Searls Weblog]

Johnathan asked me to participate in the original criticism and here's how I  replied 23 hours later:


From: Marc Canter                                                                 Mon 11/25/02 2:37 PM
To: Johnathan Peterson

Whew! Coming up for fresh air!

You seem to have generated some flow from your post. Sorry I didn't give you any input - but maybe we can solve that dilemma thusly...... This is exactly the sort of 'multimedia conversation' I'd imagine our new tool could 'host'.

The usage scenario sequence would have gone something like this:

- a) somebody transcribed the speech, you found it - whatever - somehow some 'conversation germ' was generated. This typically would have come from an email interchange. This might also have been a captured IM or chat session or something right off of traditional discussion boards, Usenet or on-line community boards (Slashdot, Metafilter.)

- b) You (or some editor) would have added your 2 cents. This annotation could itself be an IM or chat session - or just plain text and/or web links, but the 'comments/leave behinds' can also be media, scripts or what we call 'licks'.  Each node of a conversation would be associated with a particular 'place' or germ of the conversation (which is itself really just a transcript/archive.)  These nodes are convenient/natural places for threads to start - as usenet, discussion boards and 'commenting systems' have done for years.

- c) And when I say node - I'm refering to the fact that the tool that creates and maintains these conversations acts ALLOT like an outliner (homage to Mr. Winer.)  What a more natural way to create and archive a discussion, than with an outliner?

- d) But now the discussions can use media.  Someone could post a picture, somebody else could respond with some music or a clip from their favorite movie.  Each piece of media is associated with a particular node of the conversation.  Notice how effective it is when Dave Winer adds a 'song for the day' to his text?  It completely changes the nature of  a day's posting.  Now imagine how cool it would be - if you were actually hearing the music he wants associated with those words?

- e) The folks who create the source conversation in the first place are called  'conversationalists', while the first people who take the raw conversation and annotate it are called 'originators'.  Each succesive commentor, attachment placer or media annotator is called a 'contributor'.

- f) Conversations can now come to life. The images, sound, video and animations that get attached to nodes (or places) in the multimedia conversation - can easily be turned into interactive slide shows, family albums or any sort of 'micro-content'.  Certainly blog posts.

- g) Encapsulated interactive sequences (licks) can also be attached to any node as well. These licks can be as simple as polls - enabling readers to vote on particular issues or 'take sides' - which would then all become part of the conversation. Or the licks can be more sophisticated types of interactivity - such as a game, interactive cartoons, dynamic code or web service or even a separate 'on-line community' itself - complete with it's own rules, members and storage facility.  Check out Mikels' Nuggets idea [above.]

- h) the idea is backed up with the fact that (let's take your Chernin speech 'conversation' as an example) - you spent a bunch of time posting comments to that speech and others are now joining in the criticism. But all those comments are either in a separate commenting system or at completely different web sites! Wouldn't it be cool to host them - at BOTH? Or at some place that we all could rely upon and utilize together?  A public 'conversation repository'?

- i) I myself didn't have enough time to read, comment and post on the Chernin post until now - 24 hours later. But I WANT TO NOW! In fact we should be able to embed NEW conversations inside of an existing conversation node. Could you imagine the possibilities?

- j) We have to time stagger this interactivity to stir the fires and keep the flames burning longer. Archiving and enabling non-real-time commenting is crucial. Especially when I can make those comments with media! And real-time code (licks)!

:-)

Doc's report from COMDEX - part 3

My latest report on Comdex is up again, this time with all the missing stuff restored (sorry about that).

[The Doc Searls Weblog]

In this report brings up an intersting point.

Doc talks about Ted Cohen, and John Perry Barlow and Richard Stallman (among others) going at it.  By Doc's accounts, it was one of those typical Stallman diatribe fests.  But when I talked to Ted about the same debate, he was convinced that he and the other 'copyright holders' representatives - had clearly won the debate.

Kind of makes you wonder about reality and perception.  Some people (supposedly 65%) think Geore Bush is doing a great job.  And it sure as hell seems like most people don't think Microsoft is a monopolist, cheating, bullyig, block-headed, bloated, dinosaur of an industry - that waits until somebody else does the innovating and then steals it.

They announced My .Net services - but since no one else had done it right, they cancelled it (for lack of model to rip off.)  As soon as we can show them how to do it right - watch them copy it within  2 years.  If it's 'big' enough for them to bother.

You just watch Microsoft track what we've all been up to; with mobloggingaudioblogging, CSC and blog browsers, micro-content, shared outlining, anchornodes and tiered pricing subscription models.  Or even just what a web service is at alll?  Or interactive on-line community.  These ideas are just words to Microsoft.  They haven't the slightest idea what they mean.  At least to the Microsoft that counts.

Sure there are lots of good people at Microsoft.  There's also probably good people at the CIA or NSA.  Or even members of Al Queda.  The point here is that innovation and risk taking is not being done by the BigCos and then when small guys figure it out - there's no restitution.

Not only do they have Linux running on the XBox - but now they've got a media player running both audio and video! It's called the XBox Media Player.

 
In times like this it's family and friends that gets you through the day.

Here's my daughter Mimi, getting ready for her first X-Mas. We've been practicing Handel's Messiah - getting ready for the sing-along.

"And he shall Purify...."

Mimi likes to crawl under my desk and grab my toes.

"Even the Messenger of the Covenant, whom yee delight in.  Behold, he shall come.  Saith the Lord of Hosts."

Just as long as I have family, there's always evidence of what life is all about.

"The Trumpet shall Sound!"


Updated: 9/17/2003; 12:05:29 PM.