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Monday, March 03, 2003
 
Microsoftie gets the RSS Religon?. New Blog Aggregator...

I feel somewhat guilty that the www.asp.net website doesn't publish its content yet via RSS (examples: article of the day, new control gallery submissions, frequent posts on the forums, etc).  We need to get that changed (I'm putting it on my long list of things todo).

 
Scott Guthrie (product lead on ASP.Net and .NET Framework at Microsoft) had a quick blog item based on a conversation we had, and came to the right conclusion:  RSS is wicked cool in making structured content available to machines in an easy way.  Great to see someone at Microsoft get excited about it!

[Jeremy Allaire's Radio]

What Jeremy is getting at is that if major news sources, commerce engines, web service provders and content companies start realizing that RSS can be a mechanism to publish and subscribe with.....

Then if knowledge sharing and personal publishing could standardize on other micro-content types, besides blogging.....

And there was a standard way for rich media platforms (Macromedia calls them RIA) to "render" and enable these new kinds of 'web services'...

Well gee, that's what .Net is supposed to be - and eventually Longhorn - by 2005.

 BBC 

And you thought WarChalking was cool!. This is what Matt Jones is working on now:: The BBC project seeks to engage people in a unique interactive... [The Obvious?]

The BBC project seeks to engage people in a unique interactive community through which they can make a difference in civic life. The initial aim is to foster communities connecting people interested in the same issues. They will be helped to attract and channel support for their issues, achieving very broadly-defined outcomes, ranging from contact with like people to coverage on BBC networks, with even the occasional possibility of influencing legislation.

To help it become easier to navigate civic life, we will provide a "database of democracy" which people can use to find out who they have to contact on any given issue. We want to provide people with the opportunity and means to participate in democracy at local and national levels, not simply to observe it. This will be a service designed for action, not talk or "chat".

Some questions that arise out of this are:

- how hard will it be for the average lay person to create their  own community on-the-fly?  Can Joi (while standing in the midst of a crowded party) call up his Community Maker tool and instantiate a new 'community' of liked minded "emergent democracy advocates?" 

- Isn't that the point when communities form - over a drink and friendly conversation?  Why wait till you get back home or to your hotel room?  Isn't that the essence of a Smart Mob?

- will the BBC Communities connect to other Communities - and how?  Via an OpenIdentity standard?  Open Media?  Reviews?  Topics?

- or will a new form of interactive Multimedia Conversations arise?

- and who will be the large corporate sponsors who will hoist these open servers and communities?

- aren't there ALL SORTS of business opportunities in here?

Mainstreaming Zope

Paul Everitt
Paul Everitt, former DigiCool CEO now touring Europe to evangelize Zope/Python, has been blogging at Zope Dispatches for a couple of months. Recently he had an epiphany in France:

Last week we had dinner at the house of some friends, who invited a couple we hadn't met. I sat beside them at dinner, and the husband asked what I do. I've gotten used to the challenge of explaining Zope, so I asked if he had heard of Linux. "Yes, of course". So I said we do something like Linux, but for web applications.

His response? "Oh, so it's something like Zope?"

I stared at him, expressionless, for several moments while I underwent a core dump. The stranger sitting next to me at an ordinary dinner in France uses Zope as the first response when thinking about Linux-like web applications?

Ok, so it's official, this Zope thing is pretty freakin' big in Europe. And you can imagine the expression on his face when my wife told him who I was. [Zope Dispatches]

That Zope would be huge in Europe, yet relatively unappreciated in the US, somehow doesn't surprise me. <sweepingGeneralization>For some reason, especially elegant object-oriented technologies always seem to have special resonance among Europeans.</sweepingGeneralization>. On the other hand, I'm glad to see Paul grappling with the dark side of Zope's cult appeal...... [Jon's Radio]

<tagged>I love sweeping generalizations like this - especially when they're </tagged>.  Jon is such a nerd.  I discovered myself that Europeans and Asians are much more adept at and inclined to adopt multimedia before Americans.  And we all know how slow the U.S. has been in picking up SMS and many of the Smart Mob/mobile trends and services available today.

I wonder why that is?  I used to think it's because of the isolationist/single language attitude of Americans.  Nowadays I see a weird feedback loop between influential American culture, ricocheting off the U.K., being picked up in Japan and cloned in China. What a world we lve in!

Anyway Zope is the thing to know about.

 

I sure hope these photos are in the Creative Commons - 'cause I'm using them all for source materials.  Here's the first batch from Minami-san:

  

 

Here's a couple of folks I DIDN'T get to talk to.....

- Anil Dash

- Mathew Haughey

I see partying as both art and science in that it not only achieves huge business and social goals, but is dam fun.  What better way to move the world forward, then to do it in such company and under such circumstnces.  Thank you especially to Joi and Barak and Neoteny for hosting such an event!

I can't wait to put up the shots of tonight's party.

Not only do I have to go research REST vs SOAP - but I ALSO have to followup and meet with lots of these players and tell them about:

- OpenIdentity.org and standards for Reviews, Conversations and Topics

- and most of all Open Media Standards. Lisa Rein really gave me a run for my money, challenging every step of my logic along the way. Not done yet @!$&$^#!1@$%</A>& 

Bob Franston told me to never use the word "name" or "proxy server" and just say "indirect" and "redirect server."  Pete Kaminski was my symbolic server - standing there helping me explain the benefits to the humans. It was cool.

JahShaka was there and he met Joe Sparks, who is really gonna take to JahShaka.


Updated: 9/17/2003; 12:10:49 PM.