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Thursday, September 04, 2003

2nd Corante/Many/ post today.

Seb makes a brilliant prediction (which is typical for Seb) - see below....

Escape from Kuro5hin?.

This one strikes a chord with me, being a Kuro5hin expat. Here's a discussion among k5 users who have come to see the community as a walled garden and realize how the centralized architecture of the site limits the use they can make of it.

"Right now, we're all constrained by K5 mechanisms and K5 borders.

K5 is the AOL of the blogging world."

As I wrote a while ago, "rigidity and tight coupling is going to be a hindrance to the growth of communities like k5 in the long term. Intelligence and freedom need to be at the ends, not at the center."

As the tools available to individual users progressively become more widespread, easy to use and powerful, I'm tempted to predict an erosion of community diaries by independent blogs, and wouldn't be surprised to see a similar effect at work between centralized (i.e. Ryze, Friendster) and decentralized (i.e. FOAF) online social networking architectures.

[Corante: Social Software]

I totally agree.  That's why we're building a social network based upon FOAF - called the PeopleAggregator.com.  It's up - but just barely right now.  Lots of interesting notions built into it - which I'll be covering - soon.  In the mean time, we can literally watch the erosion of these centralized services - in front of our eyes.

Federating and connecting together social networks is one thing that's gonna happen.  Sharing web services is another.

Marx and Lenin were astute intellectuals on revolution.  They knew that the masses were not "as smart as them" and that they had to temper their intellectualism with mainstream ideas - but they also knew the Czar was so fucked up, that there was almost no other path to take. 

So too with Friendster.  Jonathan Abrams is destined for trouble.  It doesn't matter if it's his patent lawsuits, anti-Friendster rallies or his business model.  Anybody that vicious and mean - has it coming to them.

So Clay's claim [her that sounds like a new gold mine project] that the fakester protesters goals are incoherent is besides the point to me.  WHAT DROVE THEM TO THIS SORT OF BEHAVIOR?  I haven't heard of this sort of behavior - since the Linux anti-Microsoft protests of 4-5 years ago.

Surely there must be SOMETHING we all can learn from this?  I guess Jonathan hasn' t been reading Doc or the ClueTrain manifesto.  How can someone be so out of sync with their end-users?

Here's Clay's bit - from today..........

Two on Friendster. Marc Canter notes that Abrams is "...threatening to sue over patents he claims to have. I wonder if anyone has ever told Jonathan about SixDegrees and prior art?" Given the proliferation of YASNS's, a patent war is going to be a big mess.

(Private to MC: Its not that I think the Fakester rally today is going to be a waste of time, its that I think that their goals are incoherent. The Faksters don't understand what made the Fakster thing work, so while they are talking revolution, they are walking revenge.)

And the Washington Post has an article on counting culture on Friendster, where the number of Friendster's you have becomes the goal of using the site:

"It helps you quantify how popular you are," said Jen Chung, a 26-year-old New York marketing strategist who has 432,475 friendsters. "People get bent out of shape if someone they don't think is as cool has more friends."
Abrams, needless to say, regards such uses as 'silly', even though he caused them. (All together now: "Whatever chart you put on the wall goes up.") Whenever people see a numerical measurement, they will change their behavior to increase the numbers, no matter what they are, or whether they have any intrinsic value. By emphasizing how many friend(ster)s a user has, Abrams created the problem he now dismisses, and if he wants counting culture to subside, he will find it's easier to rewrite his software than to rewrite human nature. [Corante: Social Software]


Updated: 10/1/2003; 5:42:15 AM.