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Sunday, November 02, 2003

Since I posted this story this morning - I've received all sorts of calls and interest around an OpenReviews format and standard.  Here's Jonathan Peterson's post on it......

Blogware Implements Distributed Reviews

Blogware has implemented Reviews and Review metadata in their tool.  RVW was already supported as a MovableType plug-in, and through the Blam! publishing tool, which I've been using on Way.Nu for quite a while; but it's inclusion in the "standard load" or Blogware should help speed the growth of the standard. 

The RVW specification is a module extension to the RSS 2.0 syndication format. RVW is intended to allow machine-readable reviews to be integrated into an RSS feed, thus allowing reviews to be automatically compiled from distributed sources.  In other words, you can write book, restaurant, movie, product, etc. reviews inside your own website, while allowing them to be used by Amazon or other review aggregators. 

There should be more than enough RVW metadata out there floating around at this point.  The next step is for someone to build a decent aggregator that collating reviews of a particular topic or two.  Because of RVS, creating aggregate rating scores and summarizing opinions should be very straightforward.  It's really not in the best interests of Amazon, epinions and the like to loose control of their review content, but RVW makes controlling review content impossible in the long term.  Anyone got some pull at the Google skunkworks?

[Corante: Amateur Hour]
Liftshare.com (Clay Shirky).

To illustrate the links between internet and real-world community, I usually point to MeetUp or UpMyStreet conversations. Now I can add LiftShare.com, a UK-based site for organizing car pools. Because this involves letting someone else into yoru car, or vice-versa, they do profiles for driver/ride matching based on characteristics that might affect your willingness to give someone a lift (e.g. gender, smoking/non-smoking), as well as offering both public and private groups, thus extending the old Echo/WELL pattern of invitation-only conferences back into the real world.

The other interesting pattern is seeing what public groups have formed (reg. required to list those groups.) Most are fairly pragmatic — “For all residents and businesses in Barnet” — while a few mix pragmatic and social components — liftshares among backpackers, Arsenal fans riding to games. The growing assumption of ubiquitous access, and the subsequent overlap of online and offline groups to the point where all groups will have some online component, is fascinating to watch. [Many-to-Many]

The Cathedral & the Bazaar (paperback)Back to semantics and the stuggle over the O word.

I've found that one of the roots of our collective problem - is the term "Open Source".  One man's Open is another man's Free and there you have it - no one definition for an entire movement.

Take Userland's Frontier system - for example.  For years (after Userland gave up trying to sell Frontier as a scripting language for the Mac GUI) - Userland "gave away" Frontier - charging nothing for it.  But yet, it was impossible to get respect, uptake or support from the enterprise/IT community.  As much as Userland tried - by giving away source - showing compelling examples of what to do with a CMS (content management system) - and establishing new standards - no one wanted to committ to a "free" system.

So Userland decided to charge for it.  Now (all of a sudden) the product could be supported, developers could rely upon it and a commercial play was founded.  Needless to say the technology was the same, but the business model went from "free" to "pay for this".  During this time period - Mr. Eric "Cathedral/Bazaar" Raymond comes up with this rap - and a battle immediately ensued between "I'm free, but not open" versus "We're open, free, but yet......" and so on.

Endless variants on the same thing - is a good thing, from my POV.  My recent epiphanies tell me there is no ONE form of open source, as Tim O'Reilly's recent speeches have pointed out.  Google, Amazon and Technorati are open, but not necessarily free.  And there's plenty of other variants.  So anyway here's Doc's post on the issue.....

Democratic democracy.

Dave has a problem with describing the Dean Campaign and other "open" political movements as "open source." I agree that it's confusing at best.

What we're witnessing now is what happens when you add the Net to democracy. The result, literally, is networked democracy. "Open" is a significant part of that, but it doesn't go deep enough.

We're just beginning to figure it out, too.

[The Doc Searls Weblog]

Woe!  Here we go - Blogware went live with Reviews.  Now to make this the cornerstone for an OpenReviews effort.

My many attempts at reaching Anil and Ben have gone un-noticed.  I guess they consider me some outdated, old coot who's irrelevant and never ships anything.  So I can't wait till we create a critical mass of OpenReviews tools and aggregators.  I wonder if THAT will get their attention?

UPDATE - NOTE: It worked.  :-)  Now we got to focus on the right XML schema.

I'm pretty sure Ev and Jason will like this, and Meg too.

We're working on an agreeable XML schema, but I CAN tell you that Laszlo will be putting out a Review tool (which will reside in folks' blog gutters) and that I'm working on getting other tools, besides Blogware - to support the notion of OpenReviews. Rumor has it that Tribe.net will support Reviews - as well, eventually.  Needless to say these Reviews are 'subscribeable to' via RSS 2.0.

And I have FULL CONFIDENCE that the Atom folks will support this notion and provide compatible feeds to our OpenReviews effort as well.

Credit goes to Alf Eaton for the original inspiration.  And the visionary award of the month goes to Blogware, Ross Rader and Elliot Noss for the instinct to jump on something and rip it to shreds in less than two weeks! How refreshing to meet someone who recognizes a great idea, has the power to do something about it and gets it done! WOW! RIGHT ON!  I planted the idea in Elliot's head at DIDW and look how fast it happened!

Blogware with reviews metadata.

Blogware now supports reviews and reviews metadata, syndicatable using RSS 2.0. Here's an example.

[HubLog]

Here's the comment I just left on Alf's blog:

Just to be clear why this is important:

    a) as much as Alf and I have tried to get RVW and OpenReveiws going in the "work for free" Open Source world - it takes a COMMERCIAL entity like Tucows to really pull it off.
    b) having strong folks like Tucows to anchor an open standard - is a good thing.
    c) just one word = OpenReviews!
northern lightsPhotoblog Aggregator.

Anyone interested in photoblogs and their social impact should check out BlueHereNow daily. They report on picturephoning news and are agreggating images from photoblogs across the world. It's where you’ll see political news, celebrities, international news, sports and other major events wirelessly reported for the first time.

As more people are able to capture photos and send text, images and sounds through the air it is inevitable that all major cultural events will be captured by hundreds if not thousands of accidental bystanders, citizen reporters.

[Smart Mobs]


Updated: 11/21/2003; 3:02:48 PM.